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Gerry Hickman
Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:30:56 PM


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Hi,

Prior to installing VS2008, I used to have VS2005, the latest Vista SDK
and the Vista DDK. In Feb 08 I removed VS2005 and installed VS2008.

The confusion now, is that VS2008 appears to have headers from the Win
SDK and also the Win DDK, so I've ended up with very confusing "near
duplicates" of headers and libs.

The easy solution appears to be "uninstall all Windows SDKs and DDKs",
but I would like to be able to still develop outside VS2008 and also
make sure I have the low-level docs from the SDKs. What's the correct
path to ensure I only have the latest headers, libs, docs.

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Gerry Hickman (London UK)
Steven Cheng [MSFT]
Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:26:01 AM


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Hi Gerry,

As for VS 2008, when you install it, it will also include the windows sdk
6.0A(since those new features such as .NET 3.5 will rely on some components
and toosl in windows SDK). Sure, you can manually install latest windows
SDK after you've visual studio 2008 installed.

The following article from windows sdk team blog also introduce a
configuration tool, you may have a look to see whether it helps:

#Integrating Windows SDK and VS with new SDK Configuration tool
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowssdk/archive/2008/03/01/integrating-windows-sdk-
and-vs-with-new-sdk-configuration-tool.aspx

Sincerely,

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>Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:30:56 +0100
>From: Gerry Hickman <gerry666uk@newsgroup.nospam>
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>Subject: VS2008 and Windows SDK/DDK confusion

>Hi,
>
>Prior to installing VS2008, I used to have VS2005, the latest Vista SDK
>and the Vista DDK. In Feb 08 I removed VS2005 and installed VS2008.
>
>The confusion now, is that VS2008 appears to have headers from the Win
>SDK and also the Win DDK, so I've ended up with very confusing "near
>duplicates" of headers and libs.
>
>The easy solution appears to be "uninstall all Windows SDKs and DDKs",
>but I would like to be able to still develop outside VS2008 and also
>make sure I have the low-level docs from the SDKs. What's the correct
>path to ensure I only have the latest headers, libs, docs.
>
>--
>Gerry Hickman (London UK)
>

Gerry Hickman
Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:48:39 PM


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Hi Steven,

> As for VS 2008, when you install it, it will also include the windows sdk
> 6.0A(since those new features such as .NET 3.5 will rely on some components
> and toosl in windows SDK). Sure, you can manually install latest windows
> SDK after you've visual studio 2008 installed.
>
> The following article from windows sdk team blog also introduce a
> configuration tool, you may have a look to see whether it helps:
>
> #Integrating Windows SDK and VS with new SDK Configuration tool
> http://blogs.msdn.com/windowssdk/archive/2008/03/01/integrating-windows-sdk-
> and-vs-with-new-sdk-configuration-tool.aspx

OK, I think this clarifies what's happened. Vista SDK is older than the
one included with VS2008, _but_ they've now released the Windows 2008
SDK which is _newer_ than the Vista SDK _and_ the VS2008 version?

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Steven Cheng [MSFT]
Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:09:32 AM


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Thanks for your reply Gerry,

Yes, the new VS 2008 + windows 2008 SDK is newer than the built-in one
shipped with VS 2008. The following blog entry I mentioned previously has
also mentioned this. It also introduce the configuration tools for those
developers who may want to switch between multi versios of windows sdk:

#Integrating Windows SDK and VS with new SDK Configuration tool
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowssdk/archive/2008/03/01/integrating-windows-sdk-
and-vs-with-new-sdk-configuration-tool.aspx

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

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>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:48:39 +0100
>From: Gerry Hickman <gerry666uk@newsgroup.nospam>
>Subject: Re: VS2008 and Windows SDK/DDK confusion

>
>Hi Steven,
>
>> As for VS 2008, when you install it, it will also include the windows
sdk
>> 6.0A(since those new features such as .NET 3.5 will rely on some
components
>> and toosl in windows SDK). Sure, you can manually install latest
windows
>> SDK after you've visual studio 2008 installed.
>>
>> The following article from windows sdk team blog also introduce a
>> configuration tool, you may have a look to see whether it helps:
>>
>> #Integrating Windows SDK and VS with new SDK Configuration tool
>>
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowssdk/archive/2008/03/01/integrating-windows-sdk-
>> and-vs-with-new-sdk-configuration-tool.aspx
>
>OK, I think this clarifies what's happened. Vista SDK is older than the
>one included with VS2008, _but_ they've now released the Windows 2008
>SDK which is _newer_ than the Vista SDK _and_ the VS2008 version?
>
>--
>Gerry Hickman (London UK)
>

Gerry Hickman
Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:27:26 AM


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Hi Steven,

Thanks for the help with this.

> Yes, the new VS 2008 + windows 2008 SDK is newer than the built-in one
> shipped with VS 2008.

OK, that answers my question, but it seems a bit crazy bundling the SDK
with VS2008, as this means anyone installing VS2008 at a later date will
end up putting older headers and libs back onto their machine?

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Steven Cheng [MSFT]
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Thanks for your reply Gerry,

Yes, I can understand that it is a bit inconvenient for SDK developers when
the VS 2008 is coupled with a fixed version SDK. This fact is actually due
to the new windows SDK has combined the original platform sdk and .net
framework SDK. And VS 2008 has many new .net features such as .NET 3.5 that
require the components in new windows SDK. Thus, VS 2008 installation
involves the windows SDK 6.0A together.

I think it's a good chance to post your feedback about this SDK & VS IDE
integration to the product feedback center so that the dev team can hear
more about the user side:

http://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=210

Thanks for your sincere feedback and comments:

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead


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>Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:27:26 +0100
>From: Gerry Hickman <gerry666uk@newsgroup.nospam>
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>Subject: Re: VS2008 and Windows SDK/DDK confusion

>
>Hi Steven,
>
>Thanks for the help with this.
>
>> Yes, the new VS 2008 + windows 2008 SDK is newer than the built-in one
>> shipped with VS 2008.
>
>OK, that answers my question, but it seems a bit crazy bundling the SDK
>with VS2008, as this means anyone installing VS2008 at a later date will
>end up putting older headers and libs back onto their machine?
>
>--
>Gerry Hickman (London UK)
>

Gerry Hickman
Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:38:44 PM


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Hi Steven,

> Yes, I can understand that it is a bit inconvenient for SDK developers when
> the VS 2008 is coupled with a fixed version SDK. This fact is actually due
> to the new windows SDK has combined the original platform sdk and .net
> framework SDK.

OK, well now you've explained it, I know how it works. One quick
question on this: Do you know when we'll get the new Win2008 SDK on our
MSDN DVDs? I didn't get any DVDs last quarter and I'd rather have the
proper media than the download.

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Gerry Hickman (London UK)
Steven Cheng [MSFT]
Posted: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:15:50 AM


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Hi Gerry,

Thanks for your reply.
As for the MSDN DVD delivery and the resources it will contain, I'm afraid
so far we also haven't definite information about it. Normally, what we
have at hand is also the web download resources on MSDN subscriber site.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead


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>Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:38:44 +0100
>From: Gerry Hickman <gerry666uk@newsgroup.nospam>
>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.11)
Gecko/20050728
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Subject: Re: VS2008 and Windows SDK/DDK confusion

>
>Hi Steven,
>
>> Yes, I can understand that it is a bit inconvenient for SDK developers
when
>> the VS 2008 is coupled with a fixed version SDK. This fact is actually
due
>> to the new windows SDK has combined the original platform sdk and .net
>> framework SDK.
>
>OK, well now you've explained it, I know how it works. One quick
>question on this: Do you know when we'll get the new Win2008 SDK on our
>MSDN DVDs? I didn't get any DVDs last quarter and I'd rather have the
>proper media than the download.
>
>--
>Gerry Hickman (London UK)
>

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