Date parsed: 10/04/2008 10:19:03
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:19:03 GMT

Does anybody around here have experience with InDesign that they can compare
to my dreaded Dreamweaver?

(Dreaded being that it doesn't recognise half of my hand coded CSS I import
to it, so I dread to think what it is capable of writing itself)

I am getting hold of a demo as a job app specifies it's use, but I am in the
middle of another job so can't go throwing a spanner in the works.

Comments?

---dE|_---

Date parsed: 10/04/2008 22:05:28
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:05:28 +0100

On 10/4/08 11:19 am, in article rQlLj.60640$jH5.20886@newsfe3-win.ntli.net,
"dE|_" <dee-e-ell@crackguitar.com> wrote:

> Does anybody around here have experience with InDesign that they can compare
> to my dreaded Dreamweaver?
>
> (Dreaded being that it doesn't recognise half of my hand coded CSS I import
> to it, so I dread to think what it is capable of writing itself)
>
> I am getting hold of a demo as a job app specifies it's use, but I am in the
> middle of another job so can't go throwing a spanner in the works.
>
> Comments?

You can't really compare them. InDesign is a page layout tool for people
designing for print.

--
Andy Jacobs
http://www.redcatmedia.co.uk

Date parsed: 11/04/2008 10:00:33
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:00:33 GMT


"Molly Mockford" <nospamnobody@mollymockford.me.uk> wrote in message
news:WYAYw4cerw$HFw9Y@molly.mockford...
> At 10:19:03 on Thu, 10 Apr 2008, dE|_ <dee-e-ell@crackguitar.com> wrote in
> <rQlLj.60640$jH5.20886@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>:
>
>>Does anybody around here have experience with InDesign that they can
>>compare
>>to my dreaded Dreamweaver?
>>
>>(Dreaded being that it doesn't recognise half of my hand coded CSS I
>>import
>>to it, so I dread to think what it is capable of writing itself)
>
> I've never had that problem, and I practically always write my CSS by
> hand, and later tweak it (changing colours or positioning, for instance)
> via the DW interface. Which incarnation of DW are you using? And have
> you run your CSS through the validator at <jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/>?

DW8.

The 1 and only error is the expected and planted;
Parse error - Unrecognized *html textback {width:750px}

That's only an alternative to min/max for old IE's, .textback full styling
exists for all.

I don't have the DW screenshot available on this PC, but trust me, it's a
mess.

---dE|_---

Date parsed: 11/04/2008 18:26:45
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:26:45 GMT


"Molly Mockford" say...
>
>>[snip]
>>>And have you run your CSS through the validator at
>>><jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/>?
>>
>>You can take a look with the URI
>>http://brettsplumbingandheating.co.uk/universal.css
>
> It is indeed quite a mish-mash of differently formatted entries - but,
> apart from that, I don't see anything wrong with it. It must be very
> difficult to read and edit like that, though. I'm very surprised, because
> DW8 has never done anything like that to my CSS, whether directly entered
> by hand or entered via the CSS Panel.
>
>>Are there particular formulars in the way the syntaxes or shorthands must
>>be written for DW to accept them?
>
> Not that I know of, although you will of course need to check your
> settings relating to CSS shorthand in Edit -> Preferences.

I'll look into that one when I start a new mission, in the mean time compare
http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/dreamweaverLOL.jpg
to
http://www.brettsplumbingandheating.co.uk/
and see why I put my head in my hands the same way I did.

Before any critique; the home page is not complete, I have been waiting on
new content from their new office/business wizard for a month now.

Have a nice evening,

---dE|_---

Date parsed: 15/04/2008 01:01:38
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:01:38 +0100

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:13:22 GMT, "dE|_" <dee-e-ell@crackguitar.com>
wrote in <SpvLj.35475$4f4.31069@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>:

>"Andy Jacobs" <nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:C4243198.1042D%nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk...
>> You can't really compare them. InDesign is a page layout tool for people
>> designing for print.
>
>I was under the impression it was a WYSIWYG editor. Shows how much I look
>down that alley.

It *is* a WYSIWYG editor, but not for the web! As Andy said, it is for
people designing for print - professional graphic arts people designing
for commercial printing. QuarkXpress is the other well known tool in
that space. Bridging the gap between that sort of graphic art for
commercial printing and creating content for the web is a fascinating
topic, but not a simple one.

--
Owen Rees
[one of] my preferred email address[es] and more stuff can be
found at <http://www.users.waitrose.com/~owenrees/index.html>